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Whelp... looks like I'm going to have to explain why Ukranian Nukes are stupid...

Nukes exist to be known. If you know a country has them you won't attack them. By having 'secret nukes' your defeating their entire point.

Now if you admit to having nukes that is even worse as you break the NPT giving Russia an instant war goal on you (attacking rouge nuclear state to prevent them from using WMDs). Whats more NATO can't intervene in said war because:

1) They would be the international bad guys

2) It would be really hypocritical

3) Russia might have evendence the US gave the nukes to Ukraine (or at very least they will know someone did as Ukraine has done no nuclear testing), but even if they don't the US doesn't know that and probaly isn't willing to take the risk, hell they might event support the Russians to cover their tracks...

On a side note you will have to set up nuclear launch sites if you plan to actually use said nukes. Nuclear launch sites arn't invisable.... Russia has a really good millitary satallite survalance system and with the recent conclict in Ukraine they will be watching you. Even if you wanted to keep you nuclear weapons secret, you wouldn't be able to.

Also in the event of a Ukrainian-Russian war if you use the nukes, you make Russia the good guys. Also the Russians have one of the best, if not the best anti-missile defence system in the world. 2 missiles are very unlikely to hit anything of value.

On your point on Texas for some reason...

TEXAS DOESN'T HAVE A LARGE PRIVATE MILITARY FORCE THAT IS FUNDED BY A NEIGHBOURING EMERGING SUPERPOWER, AND UKRAINE IS NOT THE UNITED STATES.

While Ukraine may be in a conflict, it has not tried any major offensives since 2015 as the conflict is simply not worth it. The rebels make up less the 7% of your population and even less of your GDP. Put simply it would take a lot more effort to reannex them, possible face war with Russia, and have to deal with the insuing insurgency and ethnic violence. Not wanting to give up the land to Russia the current government of Ukraine has opted to do nothing.

Also the rebels in Donbass don't care who runs Ukraine, they just want the indpendance of 2 relativly minor eastern states. If you wan't Ukraine to be united just give them their independance. Problem solved.