Talk:Future's Course III (Map Game)/@comment-32023146-20190411034130/@comment-31417419-20190411111944

Oh dear, we're back to the 'all forms of speech' argument.


 * sigh.

1) Using an apparent Neo-Nazi discrimination ban as an argument against banning discrimination based solely on race, gender or sex is at best disingenuous.

2) Tyranny? How? Maybe for people that might have a vested interest in discriminating against these groups, but anti-discrimination laws are not tyranny.

3) Free market again? Really? As has been commonly demonstrated, the unregulated free market often encourages discriminatory behaviour, especially in societies where such behaviour is already accepted and common. We don't introduce anti-discrimination laws to protect people that can just fight their way to recognition. By your definition, the 1964 Civil Rights Act and numerous other works of legislation 'violate the free market', although they have in no way harmed economies or banned people from criticising Neo-Nazis.

4) The 'dangerous precedent' has been debunked over and over again. No, anti-discrimination laws regarding minorities and persecuted groups have never resulted in the government just curtailing free speech altogether. And again, this completely ignores the very real danger that is speech being used to curtail other speech (hate speech and the like), which has a far greater history of leading to government-mandated hate speech than anything else.

5) Yes, your argument is messy and incomplete, because it is not an argument - it's a whole toss-up of incoherent ideological drivel that ignores how people and the larger society actually works. Contradictions that have been discovered and actual events that occurred thanks to the free market go completely ignored by your argument.

“We socialists are trying to save capitalism,” the New Deal lawyer Jerome Frank remarked to the economist Stuart Chase, “and the damned capitalists won’t let us.”

-https://www.dissentmagazine.org/online_articles/new-deal-socialism-liberalism-progressive-reform