Talk:Franco-Italian War (Downfall of Europe)

Thought
Shouldn't this be a work in progress?

Anonymous192.231.40.3 15:21, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Padania
Are you going to mention Padania first?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 17:46, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

First I'll mention the formation of Communist Italy, then Padania, then Corsica and then the annexation of the micro-states Daneofscandinavy (talk) 19:58, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Let's get started. And also, why not mention Corsica and the annexation of the microstates on the Communist Italy page, too?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 20:09, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

I will not start writing right now. And the causes will be mentioned in the article about Communist Italy, when the war has ended. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 20:18, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Idea
The proposal for the Franco-Italian War on the Proposals page mentions an Italian Liberation Army formed after voter fraud was exposed.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 20:23, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Instead of an "Italian Liberation Army", Padania might create a militant movement. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 21:01, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Thinking about Allies
When you are done with this page, are you going to mention the Franco-Italian War on the Iberia page? Also, shouldn't Padania and the micro-states be included in the list of allies of France?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 20:32, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I wll mention the war in the article about Iberia. And good you said that about allies, because I had forgotten it otherwise. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 21:03, November 2, 2012 (UTC)

Time to Start
I think the page is ready to be worked on.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 16:03, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

When
Sorry for being impatient, but when are you going to start working on this page?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 19:49, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Impatient
I am impatient. Are you ever going to work on this page?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 15:33, November 4, 2012 (UTC)

Corsica invasion
Wasn't your plan to start the war with an invasion of Corsica?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 03:35, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

If you think this is going too slow, then create your own scenario. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 14:07, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

I do not know if that is possible for someone who does not have an account on the website.

Anonymous192.231.40.3 16:21, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Please, excuse me. I lose patience when people take longer than they say they will. I happen to know that previously you mentioned in the Communist Italy page, an invasion of Corsica to start the Franco-Italian War. Is it still the plan to start the Franco-Italian War that way? If so, then why not get to it?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 20:28, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, the war will start with an invasion of Corsica, and I'll write about it very soon. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 21:05, November 5, 2012 (UTC)

Remembered
I just remembered something. In the Communist Italy page, you previously mentioned that France began to see Italy as a threat because Italy was influencing politics in Southern Europe. I pretty sure that meant the formation of Communist Iberia. What else did it mean besides that? Also, I think it would be a good idea to put that back in and include the idea of France perceivng Italy as a threat on this page.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 18:47, November 6, 2012 (UTC)

I'll maybe put that back again, but I'm going to finish the war before deciding. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 18:46, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Another Thought
I just thought of something. Could the Latin American countries side with France during the Franco-Italian War because of the Roman Catholic Church?

Anonymous192.231.40.3 16:18, November 7, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think that Latin America would side with France militarily. They would only announce that they condemn the Italian expansion. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 18:47, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Let's Start
Now, I do not like nagging people, but could you please start working on this?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 21:17, November 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sudden Thought
Flippenheck! A thought just came into my head. How does Iberia fit into this? I know you were planning to have it formed earlier than it says on the page itself. The Franco-Italian War clearly starts on May 16, 2014. So is Communist Iberia going to come into existance in 2014?

Anonymous192.231.40.3 16:42, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, 2014 fits well. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 17:04, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

So, why not edit the Iberia page that way?

Anonymous192.231.40.3 18:27, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

I'm starting now Daneofscandinavy (talk) 18:43, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

Battles
Let's think about battles. What could be the first battle of the war?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 19:30, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

Italy would probably try to invade Corsica, making that the first battle. Then they would maybe try to invade southern France together with Iberia. That would of course be a huge failure, and the NATO would invade both countries. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 19:39, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

If that is so, then why not put it on the page?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 19:56, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

The End
How does the Franco-Italian War end? Also, when it comes to this scenario, what is next after this page is done?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 20:21, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

The war will either end with a complete invasion of the country or Italy giving up. And after this page is done, I'll probably write about the Franco-Iberian War. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 20:52, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

After Malta and Sicily
After the Battles of Malta and Sicily, is that when Communist Italy and Iberia invade France, and the Franco-Iberian War begins? Also, does Iberia invade Morocco at the same time and start a war there? Just a thought. Last of all, is the Franco-Iberian War going to have a separate page along with the Ibero-Moroccan War?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 20:45, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that is where the Franco-Iberian War begins, and the Ibero-Moroccan War will occur at the same time. And I think the Franco-Iberian War will have a separate page. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 20:52, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

Let's get to it.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 20:57, November 9, 2012 (UTC)

Sicily
What is the outcome of the Battle of Sicily? Also, why not put the outcome on the page?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 01:35, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Sicily will be temporarily occupied by the UK.Daneofscandinavy (talk) 10:27, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

Could you please put the outcome on this page?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 16:34, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

One Question
Is Malta ever ging to be given back to its government? I would like to know.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 22:37, November 11, 2012 (UTC)

No, Malta will be part of a democratic Italy. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 14:53, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

That would require the government to agree. Also, what about the other micro-states and Padania? ANd how about the Roman Catholic Church?

Anonymous192.231.40.3 16:35, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe Malta, San Marino and the Vatican could become autonomous districts? Monaco however, will probably join France, while Padania continues to be independent.Daneofscandinavy (talk) 18:55, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Work On It
May I suggest getting to work on the invasion of Southern France, a.k.a. Occitania?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 18:33, November 12, 2012 (UTC)

Think About It
What could lead Iberia to support Communist Italy? The battles that have been written on this page are aalmost certainly part of it. Could Iberia see what is going on as a violation of Italian sovereignty, and that would lead them to join in? It is just an idea, but couldn't you think about that?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 19:42, November 15, 2012 (UTC)

Well, Iberia and Italy are seeking the same thing, expansion and communist takeover of Europe. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 12:08, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Why not get to work on this page?

Anonymous192.231.40.3 16:30, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

I will, very soon. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 21:50, November 16, 2012 (UTC)

Confusion
I am a little bit confused. Haveyou decided to incorporate the Franco-Iberin War on this page?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 20:54, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

The Franco-Iberian War has been replaced by the Occitan War. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 21:52, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

What about overthrowing the communists in Iberia?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 22:54, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

Well, maybe this article should be renamed to the French Wars or something? Daneofscandinavy (talk) 23:11, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

I do not know, but why not just continue working on this page, until it is finished?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 03:25, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Hope this Helps!
It might be an interesting concept to explore in this TL the dynamics abroad due to France's preoccupation domestically, namely the destabilization of certain parts of Africa which France routinely intervenes in. I know you're busy with this TL and this article in particular, but I hope this imput helps you out in some way! Gatemonger (talk) 05:08, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

France will probably not intervene in any other conflicts while being at war themselves, so many new things are likely to occur in Africa. My main focus however is at Europe and the Middle East, but this is something that I will think about. Thank you for your interest, it offers inspiration! Daneofscandinavy (talk) 12:18, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Invasion
When northern Iberia is invaded, could some automous communities gain independence? Just a thought.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 21:16, November 18, 2012 (UTC)

Maybe Galicia, the Basque Country and the Catalan-speaking regions will probably gain independence. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 18:17, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

What is going to happen to the rest of Iberia?

Anonymous192.231.40.3 18:52, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure whether Iberia should be divided into the traditional regions or if something different should happen. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 14:54, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

I have just made a proposal for the Iberian Wars.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 23:33, November 20, 2012 (UTC)

I've seen your proposal, but other countries might be formed instead. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 17:26, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Occitan War
Are you going to make a seperate page on the Occitan War?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 06:00, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

No. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 18:17, November 19, 2012 (UTC)

Liberation
When does the liberation of Monaco, Padania, and San Marino begin?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 17:19, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Probably somewhere in July. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 19:59, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

The Iberian Wars end on July 21.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 21:19, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

I know, but the wars could've been fought at the same time.Daneofscandinavy (talk) 14:11, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

Indeed, but your page on the Iberian Wars says that after the wars are over NATO concentrates on Communist Italy while the Arab League concentrates on the SADR.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 19:32, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

Well, the page says that the NATO will "intensify its efforts" Daneofscandinavy (talk) 19:59, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

Then, it is possible that the Franco-Italian War might have been in stalemate while the Iberian Wars went on.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 20:30, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

Did you have an exact date in mind for the liberation of Monaco, Padania, and San Marino? Also, will San Marino join Padania?

Anonymous192.231.40.3 16:40, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

The NATO will start invading northern Italy on July 24. And yes, San Marino will join Padania. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 19:20, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

One more thing. How long is the liberation going to last?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 20:09, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

I'll find out as I continue. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 20:59, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Why not look to the past to figure it out? I would compare this to the D-Day invasion.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 21:03, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and what is going to happen to Monaco?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 03:36, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Monaco will join France. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 14:23, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

Invasion of southern Italy
Obviously, the invasion of southern Italy begins in August. How does it start?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 22:47, December 6, 2012 (UTC)

I'll find out. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 12:24, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

I have got an idea. Cross the Strait of Messina and avoid Charybdis.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 17:09, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

When
When in August does the invasion of southern Italy start?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 21:18, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

Almost Finished
So, the war is almost finished. But when exactly will Lazio and Abruzzo be invaded? There is no date given.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 17:51, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

The invasion began on August 12 and ended on August 18. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 18:49, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

One More Thing
One more thing. There is still one section of this page that you have do. It involves the Roman Catholic Church.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 20:11, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

I'll write about it soon. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 10:09, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

What did you have in mind? Is there going to be change to the church? Will there be a new pope?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 17:29, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

No, the church will not be changed, and there will not be a new pope. However, the Vatican might become an autonomous Italian district. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 15:58, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Map
This page needs a map.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 21:07, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

I will upload a map soon. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 10:09, December 9, 2012 (UTC)

Is the map going to include France and Italy?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 20:27, December 10, 2012 (UTC)

Yes. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 14:38, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Thought
Is something getting in the way of you finishing this page up?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 15:49, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

It's finished now. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 18:11, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Now that this page is finished, could you finish the Communist Italy page and put in the map for the Iberian Wars page?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 19:00, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, tomorrow. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 20:45, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Also, are you going to make new pages for the nations that have been created as a result?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 23:52, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, soon. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 12:30, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

New page
Much of the stuff about Padania is already here. It will be easy to create a page from that. So how creatingone now?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 21:46, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

A page about Padania will be added very soon. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 21:55, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

Pope
I am glad the Pope is not mentioned by name because Benedict XVI is resigning.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 22:42, February 13, 2013 (UTC)