Thread:Ben10fan3/@comment-6527064-20190603040133

First off, I like to thank the staff members for allowing me to regain message wall permissions, I appreciate the decision to do so, so thank you. Second off, I would like to begin this statement with another statement. This is not meant to further increase tensions, I have only written this to fully express my views on the matter, for better understanding, my arguments before were not as well developed as they could be and as a result, I feel as if that only worsened the situation. So let’s begin.

Hello, fellow denizens of the Future Wiki community. Over the last couple of days, things have unfolded in a very ugly fashion. And I apologize. I apologize from promoting those four people to discussion moderator in the first place, it was not in my place to do so and it was wrong. However, I will restate the fact that I had no malicious intent in doing so. I considered Discussion Mod a useless role and had just wanted to see who would notice first. My decisions afterward were especially not the best, especially my use of crypticism. So, I apologize for that as well. I will also apologize for my behavior on the Discord, what I committed there (while easily reversible) was not the best choice.

But... What I will not apologize for is my rebuttal. I do not believe the actions that took place by the other staff members were justified or even fair. I would like to first tackle the topic of the initial vote and my ban. For my first ban, I was given this reason: “Uther: Erratic promotion of users without staff consultation. The staff are currently discussing the situation.” A common argument for my ban, was the promotion of users without staff consultation, and a ban would prevent this from occurring further in the future. But, I had already been demoted, so in effect I could not have done so further. A ban was overkill and not necessary. What I find interesting though is that in reference to the staff discussing the situation, it appears that the only staff members who did were Spacey and Fester. I have asked most other major staff members - Sidewinder, Derpmaster, Eledec. They were not active during the time of said meeting. Thus, the only members who could’ve voted were Spacey and Fester. Without most other major staff attending, this vote had no integrity.

And so I was banned for 24 hours. When I woke up, I began a verbal spar with Fester. I reasserted my earlier statement (which I had privately messaged him about), but he asserted that I did have malicious intent and that he had evidence. He also asserted that I did not apologize correctly. But what could I apologize for? While leaving out the other behavior (now mentioned in the apology above), I had apologized for my promotion of users without staff consultation, despite my assertation of having no malicious intent. It was clear to me that he only disliked my apology as it did not pertain to his views of me and why I did it. When pressed for what his evidence was, he would not answer me. He also asserted that I did not explain why I promoted those users, even though I had done so earlier.

My ban would later be extended for “spam.” But, the only reason I originally “spammed.” Was because Fester had closed the original discussion thread on my wall without any cause or justification, only stating: “Bye.” As a result, I wanted to continue my side, and in attempt to do so, I was warned. For a group of people who get after me for suppressing the freedom of speech of some wiki members, this seems like very hypocritical behavior. Spacey would later comment that I had promoted said people to annoy him, and while I had said that to Fester, I didn’t actually mean it. I was honestly confused to what my intentions were for it at the time, but I have taken the time to re-evaluate my thinking and I can say that I did not promote said people to annoy Spacey. His statement on this was: “then backtracked because you faced punishment for breaking the rules. You can't victimize yourself in front of a pile of evidence against you and expect to get away with things because you "apologized".” Again, both Spacey and Fester claim they have a pile of evidence against me, but truly they have very little. I had not backtracked because I faced punishment. As you will see below, I asserted my statement (I wanted to see who would notice first), Fester asked if I did it to annoy Spacey, I said yes, but then I went back to my original statement, even then when I said yes, it wasn’t a one-hundred percent confirmation, my wording makes it clear that I was tentative. Spacey also made many assumptions such as me “expecting to get away,” which I never did. I had accepted the demotion but only argued against the ban. If that’s me getting away, then there’s a number of people who would fall victim to punishments themselves (including Spacey and Fester themselves). Spacey would later assert: “Instead, you tried changing your argument and trolled a staff member.” Again, as I’ve stated, I never really did (I didn’t try changing my argument, I didn’t change it at all). I also did not troll a staff member (presumably referring to Fester). Despite my initial crypticism, I attempted to respond maturely. Before the initial thread was closed by him, he had given up on actually responding to me (which he had arguably done a long time ago, only responding to certain bits and pieces of what I said, and specifically ignoring my question for his evidence) and instead posted memes, through the nature of his messages afterwards, it was clear he wanted to upset me (and it actually worked), and I would consider that the true definition of trolling.

I would later ask a wiki member to invite me back to the Discord (as I could not join it on my browser for some reason, which I can only assume is because I use my old account on the actual application and I banned my old account from the server, since the Widget would hook up to the application it resulted in me being denied access.) So the second best decision was a DM group led by Fester. I was given five minutes to be on it, which came at a shock, I was not aware of this so as a result I could not share my side or reasoning properly. Throughout the conversation, Fester was the only one who would talk, not Spacey. At the end, he would say that I would not be unbanned or re-promoted. When I questioned it, as Fester is only a rollback and not a Bureaucrat, he said he was speaking for the rest of the staff. I wanted Spacey, an actual crat, to make this statement himself but was not able to as Fester immediately removed me from the group afterward.

Fester had originally got after me for trying to create a Discord to settle this, as “Join the actual server, not one where your have supreme power because you want a new server where you're in command instead of Spacey.” Yet, what Fester is arguing for, against the creation, as I had full control and thus could abuse is exactly what he did. He did not give me a proper or amiable amount of time to make my claim. I had even brought up his own suggestion of having a solution to me not being on the Discord and not being able to trust me controlling a Discord, having a neutral third-party, one who is not easy to anger (which admittedly I, as well as Spacey, are), create one. He suggested Derpmaster. When I brought this idea up again, he ignored it.

All in all, I feel as if this situation is very sketchy, partly because of the nature of the first staff “meeting” (which didn’t see all staff members present), the rebuttal to my claims lacking evidence, and the behavior of certain staff members being somewhat hypocritical (at least to me).

Thank you, and have a good morning/afternoon/evening. - Beta.

Peace. 