Thread:AllianceScoutAiothai/@comment-28758801-20190124234304/@comment-31417419-20190305022958

Stop playing on bad faith arguments.

Why does it happen to be whenever Aiothai comes up with proof that Trump called Mexican immigrants to the United States rapists, the question suddenly becomes 'did he say all Mexicans?'

Why is it when he has proof, all his sources are suddenly 'leftist media'?

Stop moving the goalposts, you two. You're blatantly spreading misinformation. I can do the debunking for Aiothai and I'll also prove to you why everything you're defending Trump for is wrong.

1) There is no 'context' to take Trump's statement out of. He didn't say right after, 'just kidding', he said it as an actual statement that he legitimately believed in. How are you supposed to take out of context 'They're sending people that have lots of problems... ...they're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime'? You can't.

And this is a common myth. Mexican immigrants [https://crim.sas.upenn.edu/fact-check/do-mexican-immigrants-cause-crime are not predominantly racists or druggies. There is no real proof of that.] The link I've got here has this to say:

'The results of this research offer little evidence that Mexican immigration increases crime in the United States. If anything, there is some evidence that crime declines after immigrants arrive.'

2) Again, there is no context to be had there other than that he wanted to ban Muslims. But there is no real basis for doing so. Muslim immigrants to the United States, again, do not cause an uptick in crime - there is simply zero evidence for that. And otherwise there is no legitimate reason for wanting to ban all Muslim immigration to the United States.

This doesn't even cover the fact that the ban would not have covered Saudi Arabia, which is one of the largest state sponsors of terrorism in the world. They sponsor jihadist groups and even played a role in the planning of 9/11. That ban was almost completely worthless security-wise.

3) There is still nothing to debunk here. Trump, again, didn't say anything after or before the 'shitholes' comment that made it better or worse. He definitively called African nations 'shitholes'. Take it however you want, there is no context to take it out of - and thus he should take the fall for it.

I could go on and on and on but from what I've thus far seen from both of you, every source that does not validate your view is apparently 'leftist media' and thus not trustworthy, while you don't even provide sources, only accusations. The Daily Wire, the only source provided by Alan, is also notorious for its bias and sensationalism. Media Bias Factcheck will vouch for that.

Go on? I know you're prepared to accuse me of not 'look of the facts before believing what you are tolded', but guess what. I have looked at the facts. I've done my research.

Go and do actual research, not listen to the Daily Wire's bullshit opinion on what leftists or Trump is doing.