Talk:Timeline (A New Era 2.0)

I have one point of contention. Lithuania is more culturally tied to the Nordic and Baltic countries than to Poland. Also what is the reason for Scotland being in the Nordic Federation?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 02:56, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Historically, Lithuania is more connected to Poland than the Nordic countries. Lithuania and Poland were once one country, while Estonia and Latvia have been part of both Denmark and Sweden. And Scotland joins the Nordic Federation because it doesn't want to be dependent on its relations with England. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 09:37, February 10, 2013 (UTC)

Quuestion
How does the 3. Greco-Turkish War end in this scenario?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 01:58, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

Turkey annexes Cyprus and most of the Aegean Islands. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 09:01, February 11, 2013 (UTC)

What happens to Greece?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 06:37, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

I haven't decided yet, but I guess it will eventually join the European Federation. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 11:29, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Europe
Two things. First, is there going to be a European Federation? Second, aren't Romania and Bulgaria in the real European Union?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 06:44, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, there will be a European Federation, but I think it's very unlikely for the North and the UK to join it in the near future. And yes, Romania and Bulgaria are in the EU, but in this timeline they withdraw. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 18:51, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Why not put that in the timeline?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 19:48, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Zoinks! I almost forgot. In this timeline, the UK ceases to exist. Remember?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 20:05, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

I will write on the timeline soon. Yes, the UK stops existing, but England won't join the European Federation. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 20:53, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

Then, where does England go?

Anonymous173.57.37.111 21:05, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know that yet. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 06:14, February 19, 2013 (UTC)

I have an idea. England could also join the Nordic Federation and embarrass Scotland.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 06:44, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

England wouldn't give up their sovereignty to the Nordic Federation. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 11:29, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Eurasian Union
Have you heard of the possibilty of a Eurasian Union being formed in 2015 by Russia, Belarus, Kazahkstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan? This could also be a good idea for another scenario of yours, Post-Nuclear Society.

Anonymous173.57.37.111 06:43, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

The Eurasian Union could be formed, but I prefer having a Central Asian Union with ties to Turkey and the West. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 11:26, February 22, 2013 (UTC)

Then, a Eurasian Union in this scenario could fail. And then Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, and Tajikistan could form the Central Asian Union with other nations like Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, and Turkey. Meanwhile, Russia would end up in civil war.

Anonymous173.74.57.205 21:20, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

Category Page
The category page for this scenario needs to be created.

Anonymous173.74.57.205 03:15, February 24, 2013 (UTC)

Detialed
How detailed are you going to make this timeline?

Anonymous173.74.57.205 00:46, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Not much more detailed than it already is. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 06:16, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Threat to Macedonia
There is a possibilty that Greece could become a threat to Macedonia over the naming dispute.

Anonymous173.74.57.205 21:27, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

Well, the naming despite is also about culture and history, so I guess it makes sense for Greece and Macedonia to end in a conflict. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 15:39, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Fall of Golden Dawn
There is a chance that Golden Dawn could lose support as a result of losing its wars NATO.

Anonymous173.74.57.205 21:27, February 26, 2013 (UTC)

I don't think so. It would just make the Greeks hate the NATO and Turkey even more. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 15:39, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

Rejoining
Will some countries that withdrew from the EU rejoin? Or are you going to wait until the European Federation is formed?

Anonymous192.231.40.3 16:35, February 27, 2013 (UTC)

The European Federation is going to formed out of the EU as it is, and then other countries can join later. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 15:21, February 28, 2013 (UTC)

European Federation
When do you think the European Federation will be formed?

Anonymous173.74.57.205 21:08, March 2, 2013 (UTC)

Somewhere in the 2020's Daneofscandinavy (talk) 08:24, March 3, 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps, the European Union might become the European Federation in order to counter the Eastern European Union.

Anonymous173.74.57.205 19:57, March 4, 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 16:22, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

Basque Republic
One thought just came into my head. What is going to happen to the Basque Republic?

Anonymous173.74.57.205 23:13, March 5, 2013 (UTC)

It joins the European Federation some day. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 14:43, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

But will it join NATO?

Anonymous173.74.57.205 20:45, March 6, 2013 (UTC)

No, it will stay neutral. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 15:02, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Just like Switzerland.

Anonymous173.74.57.205 21:18, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Beyond Europe
Are you planning to take this timeline beyond Europe and when?

Anonymous173.74.57.205 04:40, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I am, but not right now. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 13:00, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

A Modest Proposal on Korea
The proposals page of A New Era is still active. I have made a proposal for a Second Korean War.

Anonymous173.74.57.205 05:10, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

I've noticed that, but I think China would also play a role in an intensified Korean War. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 13:00, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Who else do you think would be involved?

Anonymous173.74.57.205 21:11, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Well, no one, but there will probably be some kind of confrontation between China and Japan as a result. Daneofscandinavy (talk) 23:16, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

I just proposed a Sino-Japanese War.

Anonymous173.74.57.205 04:53, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Excuse me
Excuse me, but could you explain the confusion over Northeastern Iran?

Anonymous24.126.83.111 03:17, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know why, but sometimes I confuse east and west, so I of course meant Northwestern Iran. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 11:09, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Two Bullets
At the end of thetimeline as it is now, there are two bullets for the last paragraph so far when there should be one. Why?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 22:42, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

That's clearly a mistake. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 06:39, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

SADR
How do you explain the SADR being a founding member of the Maghreb Federation?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 16:45, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

They were recognized by Morocco after pressure from the other countries in North Africa. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 16:48, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Indo-Afghan War
I have just made a proposal for an Indo-Afghan War that continues after the Great Middle Eastern War ends.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 20:08, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

I have accepted your proposal. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 20:20, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Sections
Ie there a reason the timeline is divided into sections like that?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 21:53, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

It's because I want to make a map after every 19 years. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 08:06, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Colors
What do the colors on the map stand for?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 16:46, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Different countries/organizations. However, some countries have the same colors, but there's no reason for that. I might will certainly make a map with names on it later. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 17:10, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

ISTO
What is the purpose of the ISTO?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 23:01, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Realizing that the United Nations and its security council is a failure, the United States says that “a new international organization must be established in order protect the global stability and aim at world peace.” DaneOf Scandinavy  (talk) 07:06, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

So the ISTO replaces the UN. It also seems to replace NATO to me because the name is similar.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 15:51, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

The ISTO is kind of a mixture between the UN and the NATO. The UN is still there because not all countries are members of the ISTO, and the NATO also still exists. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 16:33, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

2030-2049
What will the section of the timeline that goes from 2030 to 2049 include?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 16:00, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

I will come up with something. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 16:33, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

North Turkiya
What parts of Russia does North Turkiya take over from Russia?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 21:35, June 13, 2013 (UTC)

Proposals
I have just made some proposals for this timeline. Some are more short-term like the proposal on China which will almost certainly be in Section 2 of the timeline. I am referring to the section from 2030 to 2049. Others are more long-term like the proposal on Africa which will almost certainly go over multiple sections of the timeline. I will have more proposals later.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 01:09, June 14, 2013 (UTC)

Those are some good proposals, but I think I might turn your "Chinese War" into a third world war. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 07:30, June 14, 2013 (UTC)

Besides Gran Colombia and Cuba, who else would side with China?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 16:55, June 14, 2013 (UTC)

Possibly Siberia. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 18:52, June 14, 2013 (UTC)

What would be the two sides of World War III in this scenario?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 20:15, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

South China would most likely be supported by the East Asian Union, the ASEAN, the Turkish Islamic Union, Australia and the United States. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 22:05, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

One moment, please. Australia, New Zealand, and the Pacific Islands have formed Oceania.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 22:36, June 15, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I meant. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 09:23, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Well, then. Why not get started?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 18:47, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

You need to take it easy. There has to be some more changes to the map before your proposals can be written into the timeline. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 19:15, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Will the map have names on it?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 20:54, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, and new colours. The current map looks horrible. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 21:25, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Bullet
Why is there an empty bullet under 2017?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 20:53, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 21:25, June 16, 2013 (UTC)

Map
Sorry for being impatient, but is the map ready?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 15:12, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I have just uploaded it. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 19:20, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Edits
I noticed that you did some edits to the section from 2010-2013. Are you planning to do the section from 2030-2049, now that there is a map on the timeline?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 22:45, June 27, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I will do the next section in the timeline soon. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 09:20, June 28, 2013 (UTC)

Beijing Pact
So the Beijing Pact consists of North China and its supporters. Could the Beijing Pact expand to include some other nations that are anti-Western?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 21:37, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Perhaps Sudan. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 21:42, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Also, I'm gradually making Iran anti-Western again. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 21:57, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Why? India?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 22:04, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

What about India? DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 22:16, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Is India the reason for Iran anti-Western again?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 22:24, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Yes. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 22:27, June 29, 2013 (UTC)

Third Congo War
What are the geopolitical changes that stem from the Third Congo War?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 15:39, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

I've written about that now. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 15:58, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

Chad
You forgot the nation of Chad.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 18:52, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

Chad will be part of Maghreb. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 20:33, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

When does Chad join the Maghreb? I have put in my modified proposal on Africa, but when?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 22:49, June 30, 2013 (UTC)

Let's say, before, during or after World War 3. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 09:20, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

2037
What do you think happen in 2037?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 17:27, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know, probably something in Africa. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 17:36, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

If it is something in Africa, then Chad could join the Maghreb that year.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 21:19, July 1, 2013 (UTC)

I have to figure out when WWIII starts before that happens. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 08:47, July 2, 2013 (UTC)

Other events could happen in Africa that year. Ethiopia and Somalia could form a personal union around this time. South Africa and East Africa could merge that year, too.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 19:12, July 2, 2013 (UTC)

East Asia
I have just made a proposal for the unification of East Asia. It occurs after WWIII.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 17:52, July 4, 2013 (UTC)

When
When are you going to get back to work on this scenario? Sorry for being impatient.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 21:35, July 19, 2013 (UTC)

Truth is, I'm working on a lot of different things at the moment, and this isn't at the top of my list. But I'll continue with this soon, hopefully within the next few days. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 12:22, July 20, 2013 (UTC)

Africa
I just rewrote my proposal on Africa.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 21:00, July 21, 2013 (UTC)

India vs. Iran
I have made a proposal for a conflict between India and Iran.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 17:11, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

I have also made a related proposal for a conflict betwen Turkestan and Siberia.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 17:35, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Visegrad and Map
When the Visegrad Republic is formed, only the founding members of the Visegrad Group are part of it even though the Visegrad Group has expanded and become the Visegrad Union. My proposal on the unification of Europe solves that problem, but I wonder why only the founding members of the Visegrad Group/Union form the Visegrad Republic. Also, the map needs to be modified.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 19:47, July 28, 2013 (UTC)t

Because the founding members are closer together than the rest of the members, and not all members of the Visegrad Union will become part of the Visegrad Republic. And a new map is coming after the end of the next 19 years DaneOf Scandinavy  (talk) 19:52, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

2037
You might have noticed that in my modified proposal on Africa, I mention an event for 2037.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 20:31, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, seems plausible. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 20:39, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Then, why don't you put it there? Sorry, for being impatient.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 21:04, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Now I did. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 21:45, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

New proposal
I have just made a new proposal for the Americas that is part of WWIII.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 22:43, July 28, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I see that, but I must tell, that the way the world will look in the end is different from what you've suggested, as I've made a map not so long ago, which is to be the result of this scenario. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 11:48, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Well, have you decided when World War III will start?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 13:07, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

2040 is the earliest, so I'm thinking it will be 2041 or something. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 13:20, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

Now, her is a suggestion. How about getting to work on that? By the way, I think 2041 would be a good time to start World War III.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 19:07, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

Sentence
One sentence has been started, but not finished.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 15:58, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

Why
I wonder. Why have you not been working on this scenario that much?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 13:51, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

I'm just working on so many things right now, including this, a timeline on Althistory Wiki, two series of maps on DeviantART, as well as 15 other projects, that have been stalled. But I will continue with A New Era during this week. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 14:11, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

2040
I just thought of this. Before World War III, the Beijing Pact needs to come up with a plan for invasion. Also, the fact that Chad is now part of West Africa might bring about tensions between Sudan and West Africa. Finally, I think all that I have said could be done in 2040.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 22:22, August 7, 2013 (UTC)

I'll consider it. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 08:29, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Confused
Wait a second. Is Greater Congo lying about protecting Southern Chad? I am confused.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 16:28, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, Greater Congo only wants to expand. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 17:08, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

World War III
I have some questions about World War III. How does it begin? What happens during the war? How does World War III end? Does the ISTO win? After all, the Beijing Pact is smaller. Finallly, could you please put World War III into the timeline as soon as possible?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 18:19, August 8, 2013 (UTC)

The war starts in Africa betweeen Tuaregistan, Sudan and Greater Congo on one side, and the rest of Africa on the other. Then it begins in Asia, when North China invades South China, and soon, all members of the ISTO and the Beijing Pact are fighting. What happens during the war will be determined along the way. The war ends with an ISTO victory, and many changes occur as a result, including the reunification of China. And yes, I will put this information into the timeline very soon. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 09:26, August 9, 2013 (UTC)

What will happen in Africa as a result of World War III?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 03:33, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

One word: unity. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 11:29, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

It seems that World War III has started in Africa and spread to the Middle East. What's next?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 20:32, August 10, 2013 (UTC)

Beyond the Timeline
I just thought about this. This scenario needs more than just a timeline.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 02:13, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I'm planning on making a list of nations with more information. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 13:58, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Anyway, I think that there is a lot of stuff to cover for World War III. Why don't put it in the timeline now?

Anonymous71.164.209.8 19:45, October 8, 2013 (UTC)

Open To Contributions
Since this scenario was opened to contributions, I have contributed, all the way to 2049.

Anonymous71.164.209.8 19:45, October 15, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I've uploaded a new map. DaneOf Scandinavy (talk) 20:18, October 15, 2013 (UTC)